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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2006, 08:40:57 PM »

i want to know what blockhead picks the "Sunday Funnies" clips for This Week With George S on Sunday mornings.

tons of leno and letterman clips--are those really their best moments? they must be even less funny than i thought, particularly jay. humor only a middle-aged journalist would find funny. (you'd be surprised what a dorkfest the journ field can be.)

but really, why even bother with leno? is he actually considered a comedian? i thought he was just a host.
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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2006, 09:06:26 PM »

Tonight's Crossing Jordan had a storyline about a star athlete being accused of rape.  It turns out, through some evidence collected,  that this star centerfielder was gay.  The ME confronted him saying that he'd rather be known as an accused rapist than gay.  He didn't really respond to her then.  But later he came to her, he started to talk about how the locker room was for gays, what they say about "faggots, queers" and how Kobe is still going strong but Paul Burke (fake baseball player) was run out of baseball.  So at this point, I think that he's going to keep quiet.  But then he tells what really happened that night and how his bodyguard/personal assistant was supposed to get rid of the girl while he went to meet his boyfriend and when they came back they found him raping the girl.  The ballplayer then said, "we were both witnesses {nods towards hall where his boyfriend was waiting}, what do you need us to do?"  It then shows them giving their statement to police. 

Did anyone else see it?
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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2006, 10:06:10 PM »

I'm curious. what would you all think if HBO or Showtime decided to do a series on Brokeback Mountain that would span Jack & Ennis's 20 year relationship? Would you be upset or interested to see the relationship explored in more detail? Do you think it would take away from the movie? Do you even think it could be done satisfactorily?

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Oner of the best reviews I\ve read of Brokeback was in the SF Chronicle in January , it made the point that :

 "Look closer. On the one hand, here is the astounding reach and power of this rare and striking little film, an emotional tinderbox of a movie that, in the wrong hands or with the wrong marketing or if it had been off pitch by just this much, could have very easily been trashed and quickly dismissed, would have hobbled the careers of two up-and-coming hunk actors, been mocked across the board and demonized by the religious right as revolting gay propaganda, the source of all ills, proof of the existence of the devil himself.

Of course, the latter is still happening (isn't it always?), but the amazing thing is, no one seems to care. The screech of the right's homophobes is being easily drowned out by the fact that this astonishing, pitch-perfect film is now considered a movie that, quite literally, changes minds...."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2006/01/20/notes012006.DTL


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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2006, 11:23:09 PM »

I'm curious. what would you all think if HBO or Showtime decided to do a series on Brokeback Mountain that would span Jack & Ennis's 20 year relationship? Would you be upset or interested to see the relationship explored in more detail? Do you think it would take away from the movie? Do you even think it could be done satisfactorily?

Seems to me like we saw pretty much everything there was to see.

I do think there's a lot of potential for shows that revolve around Brokeback-style relationships between men.  It's certainly an area that's never been explored by television before.
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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2006, 11:31:47 PM »

Tonight's episode of The Sopranos confirms me in my opinion that the best gay storylines - at least, those involving men - show up in non-gay dramas.  Fat mobster Vito has been outed, and most of the hour was devoted to the consequences.  Mob boss Tony Soprano was everyman wrestling with his own bigotry, his culture, and his personal loyalties.  And the concluding scene, with Vito temporarily stranded in a self-consciously quaint little New Hampshire town, oddly echoed Brokeback for me, because it was written to suggest that Vito could have been a very different person if he hadn't been more-or-less born into crime.

I don't know if it is too convoluted to make sense if you don't follow the series, but HBO and all the little HBO's will be repeating it several times this week.
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2006, 12:18:49 AM »

I only watch three things on TV. American Idol, Desperate Housewives, and Grey's Anatomy. I would watch more, but too busy.

AI this year started off great and has been going downhill.

DH started off badly and has been going uphill.

GA is my favorite show on TV. It's been great all year.

The above is MHO.

(Sometimes, I feel really schmatzly and watch Home Makeover. Very moving, but they pull the same heart strings every week.)
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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2006, 11:51:14 AM »

Ty Pennington does pull alot of heart strings   Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2006, 12:57:15 PM »

CASTRO:

I logged on to mention the Sopranos episode but you beat me to the punch.  I really liked the way they handled it too, with most of Tony's henchmen screaming for blood, with Tony being the one trying to get past the sexuality issue - even when arguments were made it would be bad for business.  I was a bit thrown with Meadow's boyfriend helping to out the guy, aren't younger generation people supposed to be more tolerant?  I guess that was their point.  Like you, I also thought of Brokeback, hoping that after he saw his shrink, Tony would sneak into the movie and tear-up - wishful thinking!
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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2006, 01:35:38 PM »

The Daily Show has been sharp, IMO. I love how Jon lovingly but puzzledly skewered John McCain for agreeing to speak at the Pat Robertson (or whomever that Christian fundamentalist is, I get them all mixed up) school. McCain kept offering up the same feeble excuses over and over in reply, but Jon's questions said it all. And that interview with Spuds Terkel was awesome!
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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2006, 04:44:29 AM »

Does MTV actually play music anmore? Whut?
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« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2006, 11:49:44 AM »

Has anyone seen the ew JJ Abrams show what about Brian? I thought it had a decent plot. I like all the characters except Brian. I wish they could have chosen someone else to play him. I can't stand Barry Watson. The characters in this show are pretty interesting...
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« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2006, 11:53:44 AM »

Has anyone seen the ew JJ Abrams show what about Brian? I thought it had a decent plot. I like all the characters except Brian. I wish they could have chosen someone else to play him. I can't stand Barry Watson. The characters in this show are pretty interesting...

http://abc.go.com/primetime/whataboutbrian/index.html

I flicked by it one night, but didn't have time to watch.  I will probably check it out, and only because I am a fan of Barry's, I loved him on Seventh Heaven and I think he is cute as a bug.

He was diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease a few years back, battled it and seems to be in remission, thank goodness.
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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2006, 01:26:12 PM »

Tonight's episode of The Sopranos confirms me in my opinion that the best gay storylines - at least, those involving men - show up in non-gay dramas.  Fat mobster Vito has been outed, and most of the hour was devoted to the consequences.  Mob boss Tony Soprano was everyman wrestling with his own bigotry, his culture, and his personal loyalties.  And the concluding scene, with Vito temporarily stranded in a self-consciously quaint little New Hampshire town, oddly echoed Brokeback for me, because it was written to suggest that Vito could have been a very different person if he hadn't been more-or-less born into crime.

I don't know if it is too convoluted to make sense if you don't follow the series, but HBO and all the little HBO's will be repeating it several times this week.

I watch the Sopranos too and  I think this story line is very interesting. I love that Vito is Tony's number one money earner. I hope he gets away but it doesn't look good. Someone on another message board said this is based on a real story. A New Jersey mobster was outed and the consequences brought down the "family". Does anyone have more info on this?

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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2006, 06:30:13 PM »

And here's a little paragraph that manages to combine that ep of The Sopranos, Veronica Mars, and Rick Santorum!
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/14366313.htm
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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2006, 07:46:49 PM »

Ty Pennington does pull alot of heart strings 

He could pull more than my heartstrings.  lmao

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