News and Current Events - 2012

[Lyle (Mooska)]

the Dems did regain control of the Senate.

Yes, a huge and not insignifcant little detail that I haven't heard the MSconservativeM talking about!

I live in California, which has pretty much outlawed Republicans and Tea Partiers, lol!
Last fall we had a proposition on the ballot that changed how our primaries work.
(Except for the Presidential contest.)  All the candidates of all parties are listed
on the ballot for each office.  Then the top two vote getters will run against each
other in the fall.  This means that two people of the same party can run against
each other if they get the most votes.  (There's several districts around Los Angeles
that now have two Democrats running for the house this fall from the same districts.
(Safe seats for Dems, heh!)

Although it can make for a crowded ballot--in the primary for United States Senator I have
24 candidates listed for the office!  6 Democrats, 14 Republicans, 1 American Independent,
2 Peace and Freedom and 1 Libertarian.  There were several news reports yesterday that
because it says that the top two vote getters will move on to the general election, that
many people were "voting for two" and thereby invalidating their ballots.  In any case, the
two fall candidates for California Senator turned out to be Dianne Feinstein and a Republican
Business Executive, Elizabeth Emken -- because California so loved those two other Repubican
Women Business excutives running for office two years ago, Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina!
I'd say Feinstein is a shoo-in this fall here in California.

[Lyle (Mooska)]

An example of how money influences elections.

Yesterday we had this proposition on the ballot:

PROP 29
A tax on Cigarettes for Cancer Research

In what ordinarily would be a no-brainer for California voters to vote yes on,
the Tobacco companies carpet-bombed the state and ran ads putting the
focus on an entirely different idea than what the initiative is really about and
in so confusing the voters the result of this initiative was:

NO:   1,958,047 (50.8%)
YES: 1,894,871 (49.2%) 

Voters don't seem to think their votes can be bought, but it happens all the time.

[Lyle (Mooska)]

I didn't realize it until recently, but because of redistricting I now have a new
Congressman.  My Congressman has been Henry Waxman for years and all of
a sudden it's now Adam Schiff.  I don't even know who that is!

(I am wondering--when districts are redrawn, are the old districts in effect until
the subsequent election or do they just change and you automatically have another
Congressperson?)

[doodler]

-That's how you determine whether the election was rigged, darlin, and whether or not you should contest it..?

You're serious? People don't tell the truth about who they're voting for BEFORE an election. Why would they tell the truth afterwards? If that is what 'it was rigged' claims are based on, no wonder everyone thinks elections are crooked.

[Tony_]

 So, a huge concrete rectangle has washed up on the shores of Oregon, and they think it's from Japan.  Nah, it's more likely the missing chapter of the Mayan calendar.  How it ever floated, though, I do not know.

[AZ.bbm]

You're serious? People don't tell the truth about who they're voting for BEFORE an election. Why would they tell the truth afterwards?...

Exit polling is a historically reliable method used to predict the winner of an election prior to the polls closing. 

Of course there is a margin of error in exit polls, likely higher in Texas and Tennessee...


Seriously, a large discrepancy between the actual tally and the results of the exit poll is an important red flag for officials who monitor election fraud.

[huntinbuddy]

I hate to break it to you, but:

You know, this is like listening to the late, great Gilda Radner as the character , Roseanne Roseannadanna, the obnoxious woman with wild black hair whose trademark complaint, "It's always something--if it ain't one thing, it's another," .....

To crow about these poll numbers when clearly the MS(liberal)M got it completely wrong yesterday about the predicted election results in Wisconsin would be political suicide if the Dem's were to believe them.

The Dems are afraid, and I find it right down amusing their king, Bill Clinton, as well as other top wheels in the organization spent days there in Wisconsin leading up to the election and it got them nothing.  Meanwhile, Obama, and the White House advisors....today, the day after, they lay low.

Looking Ahead to November

As for your change you can believe in:

Uh huh, sure, and what have we had from the Obama administration.....payroll tax cuts, which failed to move the economy forward and put folks back to work.   At least two stimulus packages, in the hundreds of billions of dollars to move the economy forward; they failed also.    Extended unemployment benefits to the millions who are out of work, and these have failed to provide economic growth and jobs.   All of these were approved by bipartisan Congress, so they can't be blamed for the failure.   Obama is at the end of his rope as far as crowing about what he has done for the economy.   Personally, I can't wait for the debates where he will get chewed to shreds on this issue alone.

Another factor in the recall election:

The main factor I seen out of all this process in Wisconsin is it exposed the shrunken political muscle of the unions that tried to oust Walker, underscoring their vulnerability to attacks from the right and inability to retaliate.  What happened in Wisconsin yesterday is far bigger than Ronald Reagan firing 11,000 air traffic controllers for illegally striking in 1981.  Unions in this country have now went from steep decline to free fall.

I guess when you say:

...you mean change as in "money"!  

Of course, blame it on money, the Koch Bros., anything but the truth, and that truth is the people of Wisconsin are fed up with feeding the nanny state they had become, and the majority of them said so yesterday with their votes.   Can't blame this one on poor voter turnout either.   As for buying the election, what did the billionaires do, go out and buy every Joe in Wisconsin a six pack of Old Milwaukee?  Gawd I hope not, that stuff tastes like shit!  

[Tony_]

 Re: Governor Walker.   It was reported on CNN that he did change a 3 Billion $ deficit to a moderate surplus, and nobody died, which, if true, I did not know.  On the other hand,final exit polls showed that much of his support came from people who just didn't believe a recall is justified unless there is extreme malfeasance.  And Obama still has the lead, there.
  But he is a sleaze bag, because he was caught saying he would divide and conquer.  And when tricked, believing he had a call from one of the Koch brothers, he did serious boot-licking. Which qualifies him for being Romney's running-mate.
 And RoseAnne RoseAnna Dana was never obnoxious.  She was just eccentric  .

[AZ.bbm]

   Obama is at the end of his rope as far as crowing about what he has done for the economy.   Personally, I can't wait for the debates where he will get chewed to shreds on this issue alone.

To be fair to Obama, that's hardly likely...  -When it comes to 'debating,' Pres. Obama is one of the Big Guns, second only to Bill Clinton.

Watch video of Obama fielding questions ad-hoc from political reptilians at their 'GOP House Issues Conference.'

[huntinbuddy]

To be fair to Obama, that's hardly likely...  -When it comes to 'debating,' Pres. Obama is one of the Big Guns, second only to Bill Clinton.

Watch video of Obama fielding questions ad-hoc from political reptilians at their 'GOP House Issues Conference.'

Yes, but how does he do this?  Simple....he side-steps the real question or issues.   He is very cunning.

[doodler]

Exit polling is a historically reliable method used to predict the winner of an election prior to the polls closing. 

Of course there is a margin of error in exit polls, likely higher in Texas and Tennessee...


Seriously, a large discrepancy between the actual tally and the results of the exit poll is an important red flag for officials who monitor election fraud.

 

[doodler]

Re the national debt...
the straw that broke the camel's back does so only because all the other straws were there first.

[Lyle (Mooska)]

To crow about these poll numbers when clearly the MS(liberal)M got it completely wrong yesterday about the predicted election results in Wisconsin would be political suicide if the Dem's were to believe them.

Yeah, the media all got it completely wrong.
All the polls had Walker winning.
How is that getting it wrong?

If you want to quibble about the "margin" of the victory, just look at the polls.
They all were separated by from 3-6% that I saw with an 8% undecided vote
which apparently mostly went for Walker.  And this is getting it all completely wrong?

Please explain.  I don't think they were all purposely trying to dampen your
obvious enthusiasm for Scott Walker.

[Lyle (Mooska)]

You're serious? People don't tell the truth about who they're voting for BEFORE an election.
Why would they tell the truth afterwards? If that is what 'it was rigged' claims are based on,
no wonder everyone thinks elections are crooked.

This is mostly just drive by diversionary untruths.  For comical effect, I don't know,
but if you think it IS true, where did you get the information?

[Lyle (Mooska)]

The Dems are afraid, and I find it right down amusing their king, Bill Clinton, as well as other top wheels in the organization spent days there in Wisconsin leading up to the election and it got them nothing.  Meanwhile, Obama, and the White House advisors....today, the day after, they lay low.

Their King?  LOL!  Who is your King?

President Obama is hardly lying low, he's actually a few blocks from my apartment right now wherein
the gay community is throwing him some campaign contributions for all the things he has done for
our community--you included.

Even though you won't give him any props for that, much less anything.  You know, you could
give Obama some props for these things and still vote for Romney.  Really you could.