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« Reply #1785 on: March 04, 2012, 03:06:17 PM »

oh Fritz, bless your little ole heart!  Thank you

Anything for a fellow Ninth Ward high school mate!

Do you remember when we at HC used to play Nicholls in football for the Ninth Ward championship?

I think they renamed the school Frederick Douglass when they eliminated the names of all former slaveholders from school names. Including Washington.

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« Reply #1786 on: March 04, 2012, 03:24:35 PM »

hmmm, maybe you have me mixed up with someone else?  My high school was in PA, not LA...or am i missing something?   Whut?
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« Reply #1787 on: March 04, 2012, 03:47:12 PM »

hmmm, maybe you have me mixed up with someone else?  My high school was in PA, not LA...or am i missing something?   Whut?

Oops! I was thinking Nikki for some reason. Sorry!

Good old memory lapse!

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« Reply #1788 on: March 14, 2012, 07:34:16 AM »

Brokeback fans, don't miss this video.  It's a montage done to to "Someone Like You" by Adele.  I frankly didn't care for the singing, but the song and images made up for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHeV8Kun1OM

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« Reply #1789 on: March 14, 2012, 01:55:34 PM »

I love that song but it seems an odd choice.  The lyrics seem to me to about semi-unrequited love - about the singer not being able to get over a breakup but trying to pretend it's OK.  It reminds me of Dido's "White Flag"  and Dolly Parton's "I Will Always Love You" in sentiment.  Beautiful songs, but the subtext is that the love is one-sided, and a singer who can't let go.  The video was well done, but I kept feeling that the song didn't fit!  Am I missing something - either the meaning of the song, or the meaning of the video?  Or was the song meant to be musical accompaniement rather than saying something specific about Jack and Ennis?  I've sometimes found that songs remind me of them, even when the lyrics don't really fit.
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« Reply #1790 on: March 14, 2012, 02:03:28 PM »

It's not my favorite song, but there are some lyrics that fit perfectly...


when Jack drives to Ennis after the divorce

I hate to turn up out of the blue, uninvited
But I couldn't stay away, I couldn't fight it
I had hoped you'd see my face and that you'd be reminded
That for me, it isn't over


And this:

You know how the time flies
Only yesterday was the time of our lives
We were born and raised in a summer haze
Bound by the surprise of our glory days.



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« Reply #1791 on: March 17, 2012, 08:11:39 AM »

Off topic, perhaps, but I think we all appreciate what Alberta means to our story.

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Sometimes... just sometimes... amid the angst and pain of competing political egos, nations conniving, personal meanness, and the never ending cancer of closeted greed (both private and corporate)... just sometimes,

...some one, or some small group, awakens to the beauty of life.

And sometimes, that small group has the wherewithal to capture their epiphany on a video, and offer it to the rest of us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=ThFCg0tBDck

I have never seen such a concentrated collection of images showing the beauty of the land, the fields of grain, the grandeur of the mountains, the streams and lakes, interlaced with the beauty of the human face, and those faces radiating the joy of interacting with nature.

Yes, it's an advertisement for Alberta tourism, but I don't begrudge their motive. They have produced a minor masterpiece showing man and nature at their splendid best.

  ~~~fia

PS Thanks to trekfan posting on Brokeback-Mountain yahoo group for the link. Ya dun good, Linda.
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And why are we shown this trivial detail? Because that truck carries the most important cargo of our puny lives:  love and hope.
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« Reply #1792 on: March 17, 2012, 08:19:40 PM »

Off topic, perhaps, but I think we all appreciate what Alberta means to our story.

         -------------------      *       *       *       -----------------

Sometimes... just sometimes... amid the angst and pain of competing political egos, nations conniving, personal meanness, and the never ending cancer of closeted greed (both private and corporate)... just sometimes,

...some one, or some small group, awakens to the beauty of life.

And sometimes, that small group has the wherewithal to capture their epiphany on a video, and offer it to the rest of us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=ThFCg0tBDck

I have never seen such a concentrated collection of images showing the beauty of the land, the fields of grain, the grandeur of the mountains, the streams and lakes, interlaced with the beauty of the human face, and those faces radiating the joy of interacting with nature.

Yes, it's an advertisement for Alberta tourism, but I don't begrudge their motive. They have produced a minor masterpiece showing man and nature at their splendid best.

  ~~~fia

PS Thanks to trekfan posting on Brokeback-Mountain yahoo group for the link. Ya dun good, Linda.


My husband has told be about this . He said "You will weep when you see it....it's like we're back there ". I haven't see it yet. I will avoid it when it is shown again. The next time I cast my eyes on all that beauty again is when I go back again.To breath in the clear crystal mountain air that is scented with wild sage and pines.To walk where the ghosts of two beautiful boys once walked .I WILL go back.....I have promised myself.
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« Reply #1793 on: March 25, 2012, 12:08:27 PM »


I remember suggesting years ago that there be posted somewhere on
this forum (where we'd have access to look at it) a list of all the awards
that the Brokeback Mountain film had won and/or been nominated for
and I remember that a list was made and posted "somewhere," but
does anyone know where that is?  I cannot find the file I had of all that
and I wanted (I was going to say needed, heh!) to find out something.
It might have been in one of the TDS editions, but those are not indexed
at all, are they?  Someone go back and do that!  LOL!


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« Reply #1794 on: March 25, 2012, 12:18:12 PM »

I got this off wiki (boy, do I miss football season) - the Won category looks a little sparse, didn't it win more than that?




Won

78th Academy Awards:
Best Director (Ang Lee),
Best Adapted Screenplay (Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana),
Best Original Score (Gustavo Santaolalla)

59th BAFTA Awards:
Best Film (Diana Ossana and James Schamus),
Best Supporting Actor (Jake Gyllenhaal),
Best Director (Ang Lee),
Best Adapted Screenplay (Larry McMurty and Diana Ossana)

Broadcast Film Critics Association Awards 2005:
Best Picture (Diana Ossana and James Schamus),
Best Director (Ang Lee),
Best Supporting Actress – (Tie) (Michelle Williams),
Best Original Song (Emmylou Harris, Gustavo Santaolalla, and Bernie Taupin, "A Love That Will Never Grow Old")

Directors Guild of America Awards:
Director of the Year Award — Theatrical Motion Picture (Ang Lee)

European Film Awards:
Best Director (Ang Lee)

GLAAD Media Awards:
Outstanding Film — Wide Release (Ang Lee, Diana Ossana, and James Schamus)

63rd Golden Globe Awards Best Motion Picture —
Drama (Diana Ossana and James Schamus),
Best Director — Motion Picture (Ang Lee),
Best Screenplay (Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana),
Best Song (Gustavo Santaolalla and Bernie Taupin, "A Love That Will Never Grow Old")

Independent Spirit Awards:
Best Picture (Diana Ossana and James Schamus),
Best Director (Ang Lee)

MTV Movie Awards:
Best Performance (Jake Gyllenhaal),
Best Kiss (Heath Ledger & Jake Gyllenhaal)

Producer's Guild Awards:
Producer of the Year Award — Theatrical Motion Picture (Diana Ossana and James Schamus)

Time Magazine: TIME 100:
The People Who Shape Our World (2006) (Ang Lee)

Venice International Film Festival:
"Golden Lion" for Best Film (Ang Lee)

Writers Guild of America Awards:
Best Adapted Screenplay (Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana)

National Gay Pride Association:
Best Motion Picture (2006) (Diana Ossana and James Schamus)

Australian Film Institute:
Best International Actor (Heath Ledger)

Nominated

78th Academy Awards:
Best Picture (Focus Features: Diana Ossana and James Schamus),
Best Actor in a Leading Role (Heath Ledger),
Best Actor in a Supporting Role (Jake Gyllenhaal),
Best Actress in a Supporting Role (Michelle Williams),
Best Cinematography (Rodrigo Prieto)

59th BAFTA Awards:
Best Actor (Heath Ledger),
Best Supporting Actress (Michelle Williams),
Best Cinematography (Rodrigo Prieto),
Best Score (Gustavo Santaolalla),
Best Editing (Geraldine Peroni and Dylan Tichenor)

Broadcast Film Critics Association Awards 2005:
Best Actor (Heath Ledger),
Best Supporting Actor (Jake Gyllenhaal),
Best Writer (Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana)

European Film Awards:
Screen International Award (Ang Lee)

63rd Golden Globe Awards:
Best Actor — Motion Picture Drama (Heath Ledger),
Best Supporting Actress — Motion Picture (Michelle Williams),
Best Original Score (Gustavo Santaolalla)

49th Grammy Awards:
Best Compilation Soundtrack Album For Motion Picture, Television Or Other Visual Media (Gustavo Santaolalla, producer)

Independent Spirit Awards:
Best Male Lead (Heath Ledger),
Best Supporting Female (Michelle Williams)

Screen Actors Guild:
Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Leading Role (Heath Ledger),
Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Supporting Role (Jake Gyllenhaal),
Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Supporting Role (Michelle Williams),
Outstanding Performance by a Cast in a Motion Picture (Heath Ledger, Jake Gyllenhaal, Michelle Williams, Anne Hathaway, Randy Quaid, Linda Cardellini, Anna Faris)
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« Reply #1795 on: March 25, 2012, 12:41:48 PM »

I'm obviously a terrible fan, as well as not having seen the movie in a long time, but did Ennis wear a jean jacket in the movie?


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« Reply #1796 on: March 25, 2012, 12:48:53 PM »

Yes.



The photo for the poster was taken outside the house when Heath was pacing back and forth, practicing his lines.
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« Reply #1797 on: March 25, 2012, 12:59:44 PM »

the Won category looks a little sparse, didn't it win more than that?

I guess they left off most of the guild awards and the film critic groups.
I had a folder with all sorts of things it won and was nominated for--even
things like the MTV Best Kiss and some group that nominated it for best
pot smoking scene!  I had it contrasted to the award(s) that Crash won to
show how much of an outlier it was for ampas to have awarded it what it did.

If I remember correctly, I believe that BBM won 21 Best Film awards
from all sorts of groups around the world.

I had seen a recent EW magazine that was showing the "winningest
winners" from this years film award season.  In answer to the
question, "How many groups hand out awards?" they listed 45 groups.
Most give out a best picture award, but some of them are guilds like WGA/DGA and SAG that do not.

They said that THE ARTIST had won 20 this year and the closest to that
was THE DESCENDANTS with 9.  I wanted to compare BBM.

I'm pretty sure that I remember BBM had 21 and Crash had 6.  But 3 of
those 6 were from African American Critics Groups, which would make sense.
(Only 1 of BBM's was from a Gay Group, which would also make sense.)

On EW's list of 45 groups, 7 of them had not been established
until 2006 or after, too.

Just because, the EW article also had these numbers about who won the most this year:

Actor:
Jean Dujardin - 8
George Clooney - 9

Actress:
Meryl Streep - 9
Michelle Williams - 12

Supporting Actor:
Christopher Plummer - 20
Albert Brooks-17

Supporting Actress:
Octavia Spencer - 9
Jessica Chastain - 10

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« Reply #1798 on: March 25, 2012, 01:01:28 PM »

The photo for the poster was taken outside the house when Heath was pacing back and forth, practicing his lines.

What was Jake practicing?    Smiley
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« Reply #1799 on: March 25, 2012, 01:03:26 PM »

Yes.


The photo for the poster was taken outside the house when Heath was pacing back and forth, practicing his lines.


of course, thank you
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