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« Reply #840 on: February 22, 2011, 12:11:13 PM »

AMPAS is using Brokeback Mountain to advertise the oscars today.



If you want to take a look back at that wonderful night with the awful lingering ending:

Today You're Invited to the 78th Academy Awards

You’re Invited!  As we count down the days to the 83rd Academy Awards, we’re looking back at all the Oscar ceremonies that have come before.  Each day, we’ll shine the spotlight on another year of great movies and winning moments. Check back daily, share your favorites from the past and get ready for February 27, when this year’s winners make their own history.

Today: The 78th Academy Awards (2006):
Held at the Kodak Theatre at Hollywood & Highland on Sunday, March 5, 2006,
honoring movies released in 2005.

Links:

The front page of ampas' oscar website.  There is a rolling banner
across the top.  One of the images is the above image I posted
with the oscar advertising for Sunday printed on the edges.  It
might only stay there for today--maybe someone could screen
capture an image of it:

http://www.oscars.org

This is the front page of the "countdown" page where each day they've
been celebrating a past oscar year.  Today is the 2006 ceremony day with
the above image, which will only stay there today I imagine:

http://www.oscars.org/countdown/index.html

This is the page with the celebration of the 2006 ceremony:

http://www.oscars.org/countdown/ceremony/78th.html
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« Reply #841 on: February 22, 2011, 12:26:36 PM »

Comments:  It is interesting to note that BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN gets most of the attention
on AMPAS' 2006 Ceremony countdown page today.  They use a Brokeback Mountain image along the
banner on the front page.  They use a Brokeback Mountain Image to headline the Countdown page date
they are celebrating today.  On the page for 2006 itself, the featured image is Brokeback Mountain.  The
featured video is that of Gustavo Santaolalla accepting his award for the Brokeback Mountain score.

I'd actually be mad if they didn't highlight Brokeback Mountain.  It was the story of that year.
It continues to be the story.  Although crash is represented there it seems like a joke, an afterthought.
Maybe gay people are the ones doing the website, who knows, but if it wasn't there I'd be peeved
and the fact that it is peeves me, too, as it highlights the wrongheadedness.

And on the site, all the Brokeback Mountain performers are there in one way or another.  Jake is
featured in the photos, Anne Hathaway is a host this year and in several places.  Michelle Williams
is nominated and even the featured question of the day is about Heath:

Question of the Day:
Share your answer with us – one of the best from each day will be featured here the following day.

Today’s Question:  Heath Ledger was nominated for Best Actor in “Brokeback Mountain,” which took home three Oscars.  What’s your favorite Ledger moment in a film?

"Duh."
 
Probably paraphrased a little, but as Kenneth Turan said at the "Whatever Happened to Ennis Del Mar"
panel: "I think Brokeback Mountain not winning Best Picture is one decision the academy would reverse
if they could do so."

Maybe featuring it on their website today like they are is one indication of that.
 
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« Reply #842 on: February 22, 2011, 04:13:22 PM »

Revisionist history, but rather welcome all the same.

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« Reply #843 on: February 22, 2011, 07:22:38 PM »

In my opinion, this is what the oscar for crash should look like:
      
After all, it was a dark day.


**Yup; very dark travesty of a day.  The hypocritical, biased, homophobic ampas bastards!  What they caused to be done to BBM will never be forgotten, and they know it.
crash is nothing but what it always has been: TRASH. **

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« Reply #844 on: February 22, 2011, 08:33:18 PM »


The front page of ampas' oscar website.  There is a rolling banner
across the top.  One of the images is the above image I posted
with the oscar advertising for Sunday printed on the edges.  It
might only stay there for today--maybe someone could screen
capture an image of it:



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« Reply #845 on: February 22, 2011, 09:29:53 PM »

Matt vs. the Academy should be posting a review of Brokeback Mountain soon.

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One man's ridiculous attempt to watch every film ever nominated for a Best Picture Oscar.

http://mattvstheacademy.blogspot.com/
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« Reply #846 on: February 22, 2011, 09:36:32 PM »

random post found on the internet today:

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who can ever forget Nicholson’s shocked expression when, upon opening the envelope, saw that “Crash” had defeated “Brokeback Mountain” in 2006?

http://www.newuniversity.org/2011/02/entertainment/83rd-annual-academy-awards/
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« Reply #847 on: February 23, 2011, 03:41:42 PM »

Out at the Oscars

Producer Dan Jinks won Best Picture for “American Beauty” with his production partner Bruce Cohen in 2000. He was also nominated in 2009 for “Milk.”



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“I’m certainly one of those who will look back the year of ‘Brokeback Mountain’ and feel like ‘Boy, ‘Brokeback Mountain’ should have won Best Picture that year,” Jinks says. “One wonders if the scales weren’t tipped by people who were not wanting to give that film an Oscar because of homophobia.”

Jinks added that he has never felt any homophobia from the Academy personally, but he has heard anecdotes from the “Brokeback” era that suggest that, at least then, there were some lingering anti-gay sensibilities among members.

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/02/23/out-at-the-oscars/
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« Reply #848 on: February 23, 2011, 05:27:40 PM »


Hmmm...anecdotes from the Brokeback era...I'd like to hear what those are!

I believe Bruce Cohen is one of this years Producers of the Oscar telecast as well.

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From the article:

The Academy does prep nominees on what to do and say if they win.
According to Black, nominees receive a DVD with examples of good and bad
speeches.


I'd like to see that, lol!

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I see my photo in the post above has changed by itself today.
I was having trouble logging on to photobucket to lock it down yesterday
and then I forgot to go back and do it later in the day.  Oh well.  Wonder
what it'll be tomorrow?  Milk?  Slumdog?
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« Reply #849 on: February 23, 2011, 05:38:42 PM »

...and even the featured question of the day is about Heath:

Question of the Day:
Share your answer with us – one of the best from each day will be featured here the following day.

Today’s Question:  Heath Ledger was nominated for Best Actor in “Brokeback Mountain,” which took home three Oscars.  What’s your favorite Ledger moment in a film?

This is the featured answer today for this question:

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Yesterday’s Question: The actor Heath Ledger was nominated for Best Actor
in “Brokeback Mountain,” which took home three Oscars.  What’s your favorite
Heath Ledger moment in a film?

"Brokeback mountain" is one of the most stunning and sincere films.
My favourite moment is... When Ennis Del Mar stood alone in the room
of Jack Twist, and crying looking at his shirt.

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« Reply #850 on: February 24, 2011, 12:15:41 PM »

And the Oscar goes to... WHO?!?!?!

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GOLDEN VALLEY, Minn -- Let's face it. Just about everybody loves the movies. And when it comes to movies, or more correctly, films, the one night where the world pays attention is the annual presentation of the Academy Awards.

Winning an Oscar is the pinnacle for actors, directors and everybody else involved in the movie industry.

Unfortunately, the presentation of an Oscar does not come without controversy.

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So, what we wanted to know is, when, in your estimation did the Oscar voters just completely miss the boat?

"Crash" over "Brokeback Mountain" in 2005? Kevin Costner getting Best Director for "Dances with Wolves" over Martin Scorsese and "Goodfellas" back in 1991? "Ordinary People" winning Best Picture over "Raging Bull" in '81?

The controversy is out there. What set you off? And if you could have made the presentation, who would the Oscar go to?

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http://www.kare11.com/news/blogs/article/909963/458/And-the-Oscar-goes-to-WHO-
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« Reply #851 on: February 24, 2011, 11:37:12 PM »

http://www.sodahead.com/entertainment/nolan-dissed-for-inception-what-was-the-biggest-oscar-snub/question-1537851/

SLIDESHOW: What Was the Biggest Oscar Snub?

"Brokeback Mountain" for Best Picture 24 votes 20%
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« Reply #852 on: February 25, 2011, 12:35:33 AM »

The Oscars: Who calls the shots?

The Academy comprises 15 branches, of which the biggest and most powerful voting bloc is the actors, with 1,205 members, 22% of the total; they are the ones who ensured a win for The Hurt Locker last year, after they remained unconvinced the blue people in Avatar were delivering real performances. They are closely followed by the producers (452 members) and executives (437) who, together with the publicists (368), says Thompson, trend "a little more to the mainstream, for movies such as The Green Mile, The Cider House Rules, Chocolat. They're the group Harvey Weinstein knows how to play to."

Finally you have the various crafts guilds – sound, effects, sets, costumes and so on – who tend to get more male and red-blooded the further down the credits you go. Thompson calls them the "steak-eaters": the set-builders and property-masters who are attracted to "large-scale solid narratives such as Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan, The Town, True Grit. Even Inception plays to the steak-eaters. It's a big group. It probably describes most of the Academy." It's this group that bailed on Ang Lee's gay cowboy drama Brokeback Mountain in 2006, thus ensuring a win for Crash – one of the biggest upsets in Oscar history – and this year helped keep the nominations for Lisa Cholodenko's same-sex marriage drama, The Kids Are All Right, down to a minimum.

"The steak-eaters are the reason Annette Bening keeps losing," says Jeffrey Wells, who runs the Hollywood Elsewhere website. "Call it the steak-eater vote, call it the old geezer vote, call it the babe vote. They always vote for the babes." More recently, though, Wells has detected signs of a fresher breeze sweeping through the Academy's ranks. "For most of the history of the Academy, going back to 1927, the film that wins best picture tends to be the one that makes you cry. That gets you where you live. It says something that's true and recognisable about the state of our lives that gets you on an emotional level. But [Ampas president] Tom Sherak has been aggressively bringing in newer members, and over the last few years the emotional gut-punch movies have not been winning. Except when Brokeback Mountain lost: that was the last surge, the last stand of what I call the 'geezer vote'. That was basically the people like Tony Curtis, the 70-plus crowd who couldn't abide the idea of two sheep-herders getting it on. That was the last time."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/feb/24/oscars-investigation-power-behind-academy
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« Reply #853 on: February 25, 2011, 12:27:21 PM »

My two cents about that article, and because I'm avoiding things I should be doing now:

The Oscars: Who calls the shots?
"For most of the history of the Academy, going back to 1927, the film that wins best picture tends to be the one that makes you cry. That gets you where you live. It says something that's true and recognisable about the state of our lives that gets you on an emotional level. But [Ampas president] Tom Sherak has been aggressively bringing in newer members, and over the last few years the emotional gut-punch movies have not been winning. Except when Brokeback Mountain lost: that was the last surge, the last stand of what I call the 'geezer vote'. That was basically the people like Tony Curtis, the 70-plus crowd who couldn't abide the idea of two sheep-herders getting it on. That was the last time."

This article is interesting, but I think it lacks a lot of credibility, whether it's true or not, because it lacks something.
When I write about Brokeback Mountain not winning best pic because of homophobia, I always include the
evidence available to make my points about that.  This article totally just believes what it says without providing
one stick of evidence.  And I have to disagree with this above notion that 1.)  The film that makes you cry usually
wins.  Huh?  Without naming all of them, an example or two from each decade  The Broadway Melody, It Happened
One Night, Mutiny on the Bounty, The Lost Weekend, Gigi, Around the World in 80 Days, My Fair Lady, A Man for All
Seasons, The Sting, Annie Hall, The Last Emperor, Shakespeare in Love, Lord of the Rings, Chicago, Slumdog Millionaire,
crash--well it made me cry for other reasons...

Some of these are dramas, sure, but dramas do not always mean crying--some are idea based or history based, etc.

The last few years the "gut punch" movies have not been winning?  I submit that The Departed, No Country for Old
Men, Slumdog Millionaire and The Hurt Locker were all of that variety and not only that, expected to win.

The more i think about it, what do these things really mean anyway, especially without evidence--circumstantial or factual?
As for "they vote for the babes,"  it is true that younger women are more apt to win a best actress award, but then, older women don't make as many movies, as older actresses always say.  And then, I guess you'd have to count Helen
Mirren, Jessica Tandy, Shirley Booth, Shirley MacLaine, Marie Dressler and others as Babes.  Jessica Tandy won against
Michelle Pfeiffer for pete's sake.

I also submit that in 1990 Annette Bening, who was nominated, WAS a Babe.  She lost to Whoopi Goldberg whom I
have never heard described as a babe.  The other actress who won that year was no babe either:  Kathy Bates.

This article does what people accuse me of doing (I don't mean here, although that has happened) when I write about
BBM's best pic loss.  It has a theory and then uses the actual results of what wins to prove their theory.  In other words,
they come up with an explanation, but do so without the evidence, factual or circumstantial, to make the case.  They
just write.  Under scrutiny, some of the statements in this article don't hold up.

And the author phrases this sentence like there is something wrong with it:

"For most of the history of the Academy, going back to 1927, the film that wins best picture tends to be the one that makes you cry. That gets you where you live. It says something that's true and recognisable about the state of our lives that gets you on an emotional level.

I don't see any reason why a movie deemed Best Picture shouldn't make you "feel" something.  That it shouldn't say
something that's true and recognizable about the state of our lives and gets you on an emotional level.  Duh!  That is
not a bad thing.   But it is wrong to say ampas ALWAYS does that.  If so, E.T. would've won.  I didn't see people
emotionally involved in the oscar boring Gandhi.  The ampas body does have it's prejudices that come in to play.
Sci-fi, comedy, communism (High Noon and Reds didn't win), unsavory real-life people bio-pics don't win (The Aviator,
Raging Bull, Bugsy, Reds (again), Midnight Express, Goodfellas, The Social Network?), they have to be noble or worthy,
like Gandhi, Emile Zola, Chariots of Fire, Out of Africa...

And, yes, there is an exception, here or there, but they are exceptions, not patterns.

And if I totally believed the article I would conclude that gay people don't eat at the Sizzler.  I am not
saying this academy element doesn't exist nor that it may have been responsible for BBM losing best pic
to crash, after all, it was this group of people that did NOT nominate Brokeback Mountain in the film
editing, sound, art direction and other technical categories that this group is most a part of.  It didn't
even get nominated for the costumes, and a "costume" is one of the iconic remembrances of this film!
Imagine if they'd gotten that wrong and it made the film less memorable.  We take it for granted, but
someone had a vision for those costumes.  At the time people said it wasn't nominated for costumes
because people just assume westerns are the same, the clothes aren't hard to design, or that it's not
anything different or whatever.   I say "True Grit" was nominated.

What I'm saying most about this particular article is there is evidence, circumstantial or factual, to back up
the statements made in it.  So I have to take it less seriously.
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« Reply #854 on: February 25, 2011, 12:47:32 PM »


AMPAS's countdown banner for the oscars today shows Sean Penn winning his
best actor oscar for "Milk."  At first, I was like "Hmm, are they pandering to gay
audiences again instead of showing something from the 8 Oscar winning Slumdog
Millionaire, which you'd "think" would be there for that year?  I will say now that
maybe they are pandering, lol, because Sean won for the 82nd awards, not the
81st which is what they're showcasing today...!  I should work there and get it
right.

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