Last Scene w/ Ennis and Jack Together

[Rubyblue]

It seems a little more logical in the short story to me, after Jack says "I did once",  Ennis walks to his truck, and says something only the horses could hear and turned and walked back at a deliberate pace...... I think Ennis had just either put 2 + 2 together about Mexico in those few moments, or more likely he knew all along and as you say in the height of emotion decided to bring it up at that moment, as AP described it "He was cutting fence now, trespassing in the shoot-em zone."
I'm not sure anything was "cut" so to speak in the movie, although i think the small changes made from the short story affect the flow of the scene, the main thing being Ennis having the time to think and say something to his horses prior to the "you been to Mexico", in the film he just seems to blurt it out! Also in the short story, jack is in his truck for the whole scene until he thinks Ennis is having a heart attack, they obviously decided to change this for the film to bring more physicality to the scene and rightly so, it wouldn't have had the same impact if Jack had been scrunched up in his truck!
I think I may have confused myself even more now! Nothing ended, nothing begun, nothing resolved don't you think!!!

[janjo]

Nice to have you aboard Rubyblue. So many questions, and we are still trying to answer some of them after 5 years!

[LY]

this part of the movie move me the most...it's the saddest part of all...

i always want to rewatch it again but i dont hv the courage to do so

coz i know i would become so depressed afterwards...

especially when i saw the contrast on the looks of jack watching ennis leaving 20 years ago and 20 years later...

now i always re-watch some parts of the movie rather than re-watching the whole one, coz i can hardly stand the devastating emtions come afterwards...

never can any other movie have such huge emtional effect on me

sometimes, just thinking of the movie can already make me cry.

[Sandy]

Welcome, lokyi, to our shared obsession.

Your reaction is not an uncommon one. Many members have experienced similar feelings. There is a thread called "How Brokeback Affetced Me" where you may be able to read how others reacted.

See you on the threads,

Sandy

[Marge_Innavera]

this part of the movie move me the most...it's the saddest part of all...

i always want to rewatch it again but i dont hv the courage to do so

coz i know i would become so depressed afterwards...

especially when i saw the contrast on the looks of jack watching ennis leaving 20 years ago and 20 years later...

Occasionally when I've watched that scene, I wonder what Jack might have looked like had he and Ennis managed to make a life together, even a part-time one (i.e., not just a week or two out of the year).  Everyone ages as time goes on, but someone pointed out in these threads a long time ago that after the scene where Jack has misunderstood Ennis getting a divorce, you don't see Jack smile in the film again.  You might have seen a different face entirely.

[Rubyblue]

Everyone ages as time goes on, but someone pointed out in these threads a long time ago that after the scene where Jack has misunderstood Ennis getting a divorce, you don't see Jack smile in the film again.

I that so??? I must rewatch again, that is so sad, made me ache a little just by reading that

[kathy]

**At their last time together (though they are not aware of this), I remember Jack smiling at Ennis when he talks about the ranch foreman's wife thing.  Ennis says "maybe you deserve it" and they both laugh a little.
But the next words we hear from Jack to Ennis are "Tell you what...the truth is, sometimes I miss you so much I can hardly stand it".  They both look so sad and stare at the fire.  I think it's heartbreaking;  Ennis feels the same but just can't say it.**

kathy 

[suzycreamcheese]

this is my favorite scene from the minute Ennis says, "There's something I've been meaning to tell you, bud." until he collapses in grief and despair.

[kathy]

**Yes; it's so heartbreaking.**

kathy

[andy]

**At their last time together (though they are not aware of this), I remember Jack smiling at Ennis when he talks about the ranch foreman's wife thing.  Ennis says "maybe you deserve it" and they both laugh a little.
But the next words we hear from Jack to Ennis are "Tell you what...the truth is, sometimes I miss you so much I can hardly stand it".  They both look so sad and stare at the fire.  I think it's heartbreaking;  Ennis feels the same but just can't say it.**

kathy 

I've always thought that more was said in the long silence after 'tell you what'. I can imagine Jack considering telling Ennis that the ranch foreman's wife was in fact the ranch foreman because that's how bad he missed him and was therefore driven into the arms of someone else. I'd love to know whether at the point of the long pause whether Ang might have suggested Jake think on these lines.

[suelyblu]

I've always thought that more was said in the long silence after 'tell you what'. I can imagine Jack considering telling Ennis that the ranch foreman's wife was in fact the ranch foreman because that's how bad he missed him and was therefore driven into the arms of someone else. I'd love to know whether at the point of the long pause whether Ang might have suggested Jake think on these lines.

There could be one of two reasons for the long silence I think :

a) Jack had a lump in his throat ....and had difficulty getting his words out.
                                           OR
b) Thinking if he should put into words and tell Ennis how he really feels but without actually saying "I love you" and risk another punch in the jaw 'cause they never talked about "such things".

[kathy]

**And - remember in the original screenplay, after Jack has said his "tell you what.....etc." to Ennis,
Ennis says 'I know the feelin'.  Of course, we don't see/hear this in the film. 
It's so sad as we see E&J just stare into the fire.  Maybe Ang just decided to end it there; not sure of course.**

kathy

 

[morrobay]

Oh, i didn't know that at all...that in the original screenplay Ennis replied "I know the feelin'" 

Rips my heart out all over again...

[kathy]

**Mine too.**

kathy   

[gattaca]

I've always thought that more was said in the long silence after 'tell you what'. I can imagine Jack considering telling Ennis that the ranch foreman's wife was in fact the ranch foreman because that's how bad he missed him and was therefore driven into the arms of someone else. I'd love to know whether at the point of the long pause whether Ang might have suggested Jake think on these lines.

Yes, Andy, I agree.  This is one of the more subtle yet telling exchanges in the film.  We've all been there.. wanted to say more but simply couldn't.  Walking in those shoes.   I think the silence was much more power than ANY words would have been uttered.   Later, Vincent