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« on: October 09, 2006, 12:13:14 AM »

The Daily Sheet
October 9, 2006



Washington D.C. Area Get-Together

Members in the D.C. area are planning a get-together this Friday (October 13).  Stop into the thread for details, and to find out who is coming to the party.

D.C. Area Get-Togethers Thread



Picture this:  Local BBM Screenings on Oscar Night

WLAguy posted in the Awards Aftermath thread:

"I very much hope that people who were upset by the Oscar snub will consider channeling that energy into what I think would be a worthwhile cause:  local screenings of BBM in all of the major cities (and as many minor cities as can muster an audience) on the night of the Oscars, publicized as much as possible, with the proceeds hopefully going to a local charity that supports LGBT issues.  This would be a great way for people to get involved on a local level." 

Awards Aftermath Thread-- Join the discussion



Lifestyles in the Forum

Laurentia posted these food-related pics from the London get-together in Recipes and Cooks Corner:


A Full English Breakfast - the sausage is nicer than it looks, according to my hubby. Behind it is the Vegetarian Full English Breakfast, with hash browns and vegetarian sausages that taste like the meatballs they used to serve at school when I was a kid. That is not a good thing, sadly. On the right is a glimpse of the American Breakfast, consisting of bacon, eggs, and pancakes with maple syrup in the little bowl…

On Sunday, I went to Brick Lane with Chapeaugris - a great place, I've never been there before. These pics are from a Bangladeshi supermarket that stocked everything, and in abundance - just look at the shelves in the background! After doing our shopping, we had an excellent dinner in a restaurant nearby and talked into the evening...I've never known hours pass so quickly as they did this weekend.




Okras! For real! A small amount is currently biding their time in my fridge...






That's Chapeaugris with short hair, me (Laurentia) in the cap, and so many lovely spices!



Rants and Rantidotes

Do you ever find yourself annoyed by the inconvenience of RL?

Why does grocery shopping have to be so primitive?  The other day, while looking for an unfamiliar item (in this case, cans of pie filling)  I roamed several aisles, and wasted a lot of precious time standing in front of cans of fruit, carefully reading labels.  Ultimately I gave up, and began to roam the store to look for a human being who knew the answer.  Once I found that human being, he walked with me to the spot where I had been standing, and pointed up to the TOP shelf.

As soon as my search ended I was fine, but while I was in the middle of it, I found myself unreasonably impatient.  My mind kept jumping to the thought that there MUST be a quicker way.  Why can’t I google this?



Techie Tip of the Day

Here is a question from New Members Ask that I bet most of us have wanted to ask:

dahlia:  Is the time shown (for posts and for PMs) ALWAYS the (I think Denver?) local 'forum' time, or can it be the member's local time if she/he put a different one in his own profile?

LoveEmBoys: The time displayed defaults to Mountain time (Denver).  If you want it to display your own time zone, then you can go into your profile options and update the Time Offset value (under Look and Layout Preferences) to adjust the default timezone to your own.



When Words Fail Us

In the Photocaption thread, chapeaugris found ROTFLMAO suddenly inadequate for what she was experiencing.  She was moved to invent another, new acronym, CIAHOMK.

“Collapsed in a heap over my keyboard”



SHOP SHEEP TALK

by Lyle (Mooska)




Lashandra:  "What is it they keep talking about?  The Daily Sheep?"

Quashilla:  "Oh, yeah, TDS.  Somethin’ they read every morning before chasing us."





Sheryl:  "I wonder if the Chilean TDS is in Spanish?"




Shanzie:  "What’s TDS?"

Sheila:  "My life."




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The Daily Sheet
October 10, 2006



Photo of the Day



conny's Rainbow - Now, if only Jack had had this rainbow to wish on,
maybe things would have been different.  Sigh!


Thread of the Day:  A Few Fun Questions - Getting to Know One Another

Mod, CellarDweller115 recently posted the Three Things survey in the Getting To Know One Another Thread.   The answers are entertaining to read and we hope, you join in the fun and answer them too!  Take a look:

3 things you go by
3 things you like about yourself
3 things you don't like about yourself
3 yummy parts of your body
3 things that scare you
3 of your everyday essentials
3 things you are wearing right now
3 of your favorite bands or musical artists
3  things you want in a relationship
2 truths and 1 lie
3 physical things about sex partners that appeal to you
3 of your favorite hobbies
3 career paths you've considered
3 places you want to go on vacation
3 kid's names you like
3 ways that you are a boy
3 ways that you are a girl
3 things you want really badly right now
3 things you want to do before you die

To participate, go to Getting to Know One Another 

Post of the Day

B73 in the How The Forum Get Togethers Have Affected Me thread tells us:

"I do believe that this movie draws a certain kind of person.

When I met other forum members for the first time at the slash bash in Chicago....well, it was like I was with people who KNEW me, and I knew them--a singular recognition took place, beyond just our BBM love.  It was like they each had within themselves the very thing I hold dear within me; the type of thing I look for whenever I meet somebody new.

So nice to know I have a family; that we've always been here, somewhere, waiting; but that we've come together at last, thanks to this place."


FanFiction Review

by Cynical21

It is my very great pleasure to present, as this week's featured fan fic selection, the intriguing Shades of Grey, written by our very own forum member, aevkc, AKA midwest-girl.  In the vernacular commonly used in the DC forum, this story would be classified as AU/AU, but, in the broader terminology of fan fiction in general, it would be known as an Altered Reality story - one in which the characters retain their identities but live in completely different circumstances.  In this case, neither is a cowboy, and there is no connection to Brokeback Mountain, although both do hail, originally, from Wyoming.

In this very well written, cleverly crafted story, more than worthy of a four-star rating, Ennis is an FBI agent, and Jack is a drug dealer who has been forced into informing on his sinister boss.  As a result of clever maneuvering by Ennis, Jack is being held in protective custody, with Ennis cast in the role of protector.  This narrative is composed of several layers, and among the most compelling of them is Ennis' denial of his sexuality and his growing feelings for Jack; and their roles as 'good guy' and 'bad guy' and the examination of the concepts of good and bad as being more fluid, more 'grey' than people often believe.  There is also the issue of two strong men, self-sufficient and capable, who slowly discover their need for each other, and learn how they complement each other in ways they never expected, as each discovers his own vulnerabilities.  In addition to being a fascinating psychological study, this is a colorful and authentic cop story, with lots of intrigue and mystery, all contained within the framework of a love that is as irresistible as a force of nature.

The author promises that the attraction between our heroes will continue to intensify, until it reaches a point at which it can no longer be denied or repressed, but the road before them will not smooth out magically.  Jack's past, which will be revealed slowly, will continue to be an issue, as will Ennis' struggles to deny and - finally - accept - who he is.

The story benefits enormously from the experience of its writer as a defense attorney, a history which enables her to capture the true flavor and authenticity of the setting she is developing in this dramatic tale.  During her career, she specialized in federal criminal defense, including a high profile case involving members of a Colombian drug cartel, giving her remarkable insight into this dark underworld.  Recently, she resigned her position and is currently concentrating on her writing.  She resides in Kansas City with her husband, and two young children.

In order to access this powerful and addictive story chapter by chapter, go to Slash Links by Author

Or click here for the author's complete LiveJournal

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The Daily Sheet
October 11, 2006

Today's edition produced by elle_ann



Participate in the Forum's New Film Club


Help us choose the first film for discussion.  Melisande has posted a list of films that we have shown interest in.  Once the film is chosen, discussion questions will be posted and we hope many will join in the discussion.  Click here to vote.



Larry McMurtry to be Featured in Forum's Meet the Creators


Don't miss The Daily Sheet this Friday, when we will feature the profile of Pulitzer Prize-winning author and award-winning screenwriter Larry McMurtry, who co-wrote the screenplay for Brokeback Mountain with Diana Ossana.  Because Larry McMurtry rarely gives interviews, we are doubly honored that he agreed to participate in our Forum profile. 



The Lighter Side of National Coming Out Day

(...which, in case you missed it, is TODAY!)

Lady Wonders "Should I Come Out of The Closet?" Gets Mixed Answers, Finally Finds Courage

Queerty (winner Best GayBlog 2006) found this "Coming Out" video on Youtube.  Queerty says: We're totally psyched about National Coming Out Day on October 11th. Sure, we still stand by our original assertion that coming out on NCOD is like "being a mass casuality in some terrible homosexual campaign," but we'd rather have people come out on a preordained day than not come out at all. So, for those of you looking to shed a little light on your gay selves, we whole-heartedly support your decision to come out on the what HRC has deemed the day to "Talk About It".

"And in preparation for the big fag outing, we'd like to share this brilliant clip with you produced by a woman named Denise McCanles. We haven't the foggiest as to who she is or what she does, but we love her. Denise, if you're out there, kudos to you!!!"



Books, Books and More Books


From the moment author Jane Rave received her son Robert’s momentous letter announcing he was gay, both their lives changed. Conversations and Cosmopolitans is the true story of a son and his mom as they experience getting to know each other all over again. In poignant and often-times hilarious conversations and letters from debut authors, Robert and Jane Rave, readers witness their sometimes bizarre, but always entertaining, codependent relationship from each of their perspectives.

Visit their website where you can read a chapter from the book entitled "Me But Latin" which is, according to Robert, the phrase most commonly uttered by gay men when asked what they are looking for in a potential mate. The authors also include a very funny glossary of gay slang as interpreted by both mother and son. For the full list, go here...

6-pack
Mom’s definition: Beer? No, of course I know this, but those kinds of abs are strictly fantasy
Actual gay definition: The prerequisite in finding a mate

6”
Mom’s definition: Oh God, Robert. I don’t want to go there.
Actual gay definition: The average-sized male penis, a.k.a. 8” in most chat rooms
Cinderella fella
Mom’s definition: Pretty boy
Actual gay definition: HOOKAH!

metrosexual
Mom’s definition: Straight men who pick up gays on the metro line
Actual gay definition: One beer away from gay



New to this year's edition is the inclusion of 100 Landmark Films. This is a list of films whose influence is still felt and which time, context, and circumstance have made significant. Since 2000, only two films have been added to this list: Shrek in 2001 and Brokeback Mountain[/b] in 2005. Others in the line-up include:
 
The Birth of a Nation (1915)
The Jazz Singer (1927)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
Citizen Kane (1941)
Vertigo (1958)
Easy Rider (1969)
Jaws (1975)
Blade Runner (1982)
Pulp Fiction (1994)
Brokeback Mountain (2005)

Compiled by the Radio Times' knowledgeable film reviewers and staff, this book was released on October 5, 2006 in paperback. It's 1700 pages long, with over 21,000 in-depth film reviews, including 500 new entries - a film bible for all movie lovers, well-informed connoisseurs and even the casual cinema goer.

Please remember to go via our Store to Amazon if you're interested in either of these books, or any of the others featured on this website. The Forum benefits from every purchase made in this way!



Coming Out as Bisexual

" ... to the straight, I’m promiscuous,” she said, “and to the gay, I’m waffling.”

Bisexuality is often misunderstood because it cannot be easily classified. “People in Western cultures love divisions,” said Dr. Paula Rodríguez Rust. “And when things don’t fit into our categories, we’re not comfortable with them. We don’t understand them.” Rodríguez Rust, author of Bisexuality in the United States,  said people sometimes perceive bisexuality as some “middle ground” between straight and gay. “But there’s nothing middle about it,” she said. “It’s not an issue of half straight, half gay.” Instead, bisexuals can find a person attractive regardless of that person’s gender.

Gay activist Alexei Guren wasn’t sure what to expect when he came out as bisexual. As a leading member of several gay organizations in Miami, Guren thought his announcement at age 22 in 1984 might spur some skepticism. “But I didn’t expect the level of anger and suspicion that I had thrown at me,” he said. “Within a very short time, I had been asked to resign from most of the organizations, and lost the majority of my friends.” Guren, who had identified publicly as gay since age 16, was labeled a traitor.

Guren’s story was one of many that bisexuals across the United States and as far away as Australia shared with the Blade in advance of National Coming Out Day on October 11. Read the full article, Coming out bi is unique challenge, first published in the Washington Blade on October 06, 2006.



Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival

By michaelflanagansf

Want to see Emmylou Harris next year?  I can tell you what event she puts on her calendar first (or so she says...).  It's the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival - and next year's is October 6th and 7th.

I went to this year's free concert on Sunday and saw sets from The Coward Brothers featuring Elvis Costello & T Bone Burnett, Richard Thompson and Emmylou herself - and managed to stop by for quick listens to North Mississippi Allstars, Drive By Truckers, Ricky Scaggs, Hot Tuna and Richie Furay.

T Bone and Elvis bill themselves as the Coward Brothers, a facetious group that they say had their 20th reunion concert this weekend (they broke up because they married the same woman...twice).  This festival being what it is, you often see performers doing wonderfully unexpected thing - Elvis & T Bone did 'Tom Dooley', 'So You Want To Be A Rock and Roll Star', George Jones' 'Threw Away The Rose', Los Lobos 'A Matter of Time' and traditional pieces like 'The Butcher Boy'.  And then Emmylou Coward came out to join them for 'The Scarlet Tide'.

Especially touching was 'San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Some Flowers in Your Hair)' - Howard Coward (Elvis) said it was a Coward tradition that goes back to their father Noel to sing a song about the city they're in.

Teddy's daddy Richard Thompson did a wonderful acoustic solo set with some of his standards ('Persuasion', 'Down Where the Drunkards Roll', 'Walking on a Wire' and 'Misunderstood') as well as new numbers such as 'Sunset Song' and 'Dad's Gonna Kill Me' (about soldiers in Baghdad - which he explains is now called 'Dad' much like Vietnam became 'Nam').  It's amazing how much sound he can get out of his guitar and voice - he truly fills a stage with his presence.

And the concert wound up with Emmylou.  She didn't do any Brokeback songs (sadly), but she was backed up by John Starling (from 'The Seldom Scene') and they did 'Satan's Jeweled Crown', 'Cold Jordan', the Bill Monroe song 'Get Up John', 'Making Believe', 'Pancho and Lefty' and did a duet with Hazel Dickens on 'Green Rolling Hills' that brought the night to a beautiful conclusion.  And though she didn't do 'A Love That Will Never Grow Old', she did 'Those Memories Of You', with these lyrics:

Those memories of you still haunt me
Every night when I lay down
I'll always love you little darling
Until the day they lay me down


Another song for 'Songs related to Brokeback'?  You decide.  Meanwhile, look for me next year in Golden Gate Park.  I'll be the one with flowers in his hair.



Post of the Day

Boris wrote in How Brokeback affected Me:

"When I thought about what to post as my post count reaches new thousand, I thought about the movie, its impact and especially the pastoral nature or style how the romance between Jack and Ennis was depicted in movie. Love pristine and pure can be passionate and raw at the same time. But for some reason I felt romantic today.

Christopher Marlowe wrote a poem in 1599 called "The Passionate Shepherd to His Love" For me it is Jack who says this:

Come live with me and be my love,
And we will all the pleasures prove
That valleys, groves, hills, and fields
Woods or steepy mountain yields

And we will sit upon the rocks,
Seeing the shepherds feed their flocks
By shallow rivers to whose falls
Melodious birds sing madrigals ......


Sir Walter Raleigh wrote Ennis's response in 1600

If all the world and love were young,
And truth in every shepherd's tongue,
These pretty pleasures might me move
To live with thee and be thy love .....

...But could youth last and love still breed,
Had joys no date nor age no need,
Then these delights my mind might move
To live with thee and be thy love.


For 44 years of my life I was Walter Raleigh. Now, I choose to be Christopher Marlowe."

For the full post, including all the words from both these awesome poems, visit the How Brokeback Affected Me thread.



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Alma: Ennis, you know anybody named Rodeo who'd put a Want Ad in the paper?



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The Daily Sheet
October 12, 2006





In Memory of Matthew Shepard

 
Today is the eighth anniversary of the death of Matthew Shepard.  Matthew Wayne Shepard (December 1, 1976 - October 12, 1998) was an American student at the University of Wyoming, who was attacked by Russell Henderson and Aaron McKinney near Laramie, Wyoming on the night of October 6 - 7, 1998.  Even though Henderson and McKinney were convicted of murder, they were not charged with a hate crime because the laws at the time did not support such a charge.  Many people think the case should have been dealt with as a hate crime, particularly those who believe that Matthew Shepard was targeted on the basis of his sexual orientation.  Under current federal United States law and Wyoming state law, crimes committed on the basis of sexual orientation are not prosecutable as hate crimes.  In 1999, the Wyoming Legislature, amid widespread discussion of this crime, also attempted to pass legislation defining certain attacks motivated by victim identity as hate crimes, but the measure failed on a 30-30 tie in the Wyoming House of Representatives. (from: Wikipedia.com)

If you haven't visited The Matthew Shepard Foundation recently, you might want to go check it you as they have a new, updated web page. 

The following two articles are from their site:

Vote for Matthew Shepard's Mom

Judy Shepard has been nominated as a HERO semifinalist for the VOLVO FOR LIFE AWARDS.

Judy has worked tirelessly since 1998 to help create a world filled with compassion and hope after hate forever changed her life.   If named "Hero of the Year", not only would Judy receive a well deserved honor, but the Matthew Shepard Foundation would get $50,000 to help fund work to ERASE HATE. 

To VOTE, simply click the following link and enter "Judy Shepard" in the "Find Your Hero" search box.  Voting ends February 7th, 2007! Vote Now & Vote Often!

The Laramie Project

December 1, 2006, the Matthew Shepard Foundation will honor one of the world's most acclaimed pieces of theater and film, "The Laramie Project", on the 30th birthday of the late Matthew Shepard.  The event will take place at the Town Hall Theater in Times Square, New York City.  The evening will consist of a celebrity play reading of "The Laramie Project" directed by Moises Kaufman and featuring celebrities such as Judith Light, Robert Desiderio, Van Hansis of "As The World Turns", and openly gay actor Chad Allen.  The evening will also include a special live performance by Cyndi Lauper. Additional names will be announced in the coming weeks.

Dave's Coverage of Judy Shepard & the Trials:

Dave covered the murder trials for Salon.com and spent a lot of time with Judy, one of the brightest people he has ever met. You can read most of his coverage of the trials, including detailed analysis of the disgusting "gay panic" defense: here.

Dave published this profile of Judy on Salon, along with this account of how she spared her son's murderer from the death penalty. That was her finest moment, Dave says. It choked him up so much that when he ran downstairs to call his editor from the pay phone in the Laramie courthouse basement, he found he couldn't speak. His voice cracked when he tried to convey what had happened and for a few moments she thought something terrible had happened.

     The Reluctant Activist

     A Dramatic Moment of Mercy



The Misadventures of Sparky: Dating Deal Breakers Part III

By Sparky

  Once again, Sparky entertains us with a continuation of his Dating Deal Breakers. Join in the fun as he attempts to separate the dudes from the duds and the douchebags. Wonder, like he does: will this list ever end ? See below links for Parts 1 and 2 

 The Unwashed

Maybe I am still traumatized by my recent experiences with the Dental Tragedies of Oklahoma, but can we say FLOSS? It all starts with fresh breath. My cologne phobia is well documented, and my attraction to a natural male scent fabled in certain circles. I once dated a complete jackass for three months because his smell turned me into a complete animal. But cleanliness is a different story altogether. To hell with Godliness. Cleanliness is next to Hunkiness. And guys, if you are going on a date, scrub everywhere. Be prepared for ANYTHING. And don't be shy with the soap. If it's an area you think I may want to, um, explore, prepare your bad self. I won't even go any further with this one. Your imaginations can fill in the blanks with the horrors that await you with an Unwashed Date.

The Baggage Cart

No "still living with the ex-boyfriend because rent is cheaper" scenes. No boys still caught in Mommy’s apron.  If your therapist hasn't released you into the world yet with his or her blessing, stand back. Formerly married with kids? This has always been a killer for me. I have a corker bummer of a story about it, but I won't digress. Let's just say I MIGHT date a guy who had kids over 18. Under 18, no chance. I don't want to date 2 or 3 kids, an ex-wife, and a cadre of in-laws. Just dating a man is plenty of a handful to deal with (let's hope anyway).

The Slouch

Men's Fitness cover model not required. Six pack not required. Gut hang unacceptable. I spend hours every week in the pool or at the gym. I just can't cotton sleeping with someone I can't look at naked in the daylight. Call me shallow.

The Musical Mismatch

No rap. No techno. If you have to listen to it, get out the headphones. Anything else is fine. Except female car alarm vocalists. That includes Screechine, Pariah, Crackney, and of course the Mother of All Car Alarm Vocalists: Patti LaBelle. Oh, and they took my gay card away a long time ago, so I have no problem admitting that the mere mention of showtunes makes me break out in a rash. I sleep with earplugs. I will not wear them otherwise. One needs some overlap with music. At least a dozen artists, I am thinking. Just for road trips.

On second thought, the whole musical thing is a whopper. It may be a second date field trip which requires a peek into the music cabinet.

Check back next Thursday for a continuation of Dating Deal Breakers.

Part 1 Dating Deal Breakers

Part 2 Dating Deal Breakers 

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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2006, 09:46:31 PM »

The Daily Sheet
October 12.5, 2006
A Special Message from Dave

we have been going through some changes here lately, and i sent a message this week to the mod staff reflecting on it, and they suggested i share the thoughts here with you. i think that's a good idea.

i've seen several websites go through changes over the years, but the one that reminds me most of ours, and some of our changes is, perhaps oddly, dailykos. you may not be familiar with it, but i believe it's the biggest and most influential left/democratic political blog by far. it was started by this guy kos and was popular before the 2004 presidential primaries, but really went crazy in the six months leading up to the start of the primaries. (with a lot of wild/fervent howard dean supporters who were already marching to victory by the end of june 2005, which would include me.)

the dynamic changed considerably over time. and then changed again. the site grew massively, to the point where each post by kos became the occasion for literally hundreds of comments, and then "open threads" were started for free-form discussion, and then they added diaries for members to create their own entries, and so on.  very early on, it morphed from one person's blog, into an entire community of people, with that one person acting as sort of host and guiding force.

kos posted a column sometime in 2004, about how the site had gone through three completely different phases so far, and that none of the transitions were overnight, but they were significant and distinct, in retrospect. and each time it changed, some of the old faithful loved the evolution while others complained bitterly that what they had come for was gone, and they left. and whole new waves of members came that didn't even know about the earlier incarnations. at the end of round two, some were bitterly leaving because the "original" feeling of the site was gone, but they were often referring to the second round--they had never even experienced the first.

our situation is not directly analagous, but i see some definite parallels. our first transition was obvious, and profound: pre/post seeing the film. for the first couple months of the precursor (blog) site, the film wasn't even out, and we were mostly all here discussing with great anticipation the coming of what we all sensed was going to be a landmark event. (or sensed might be one.) and we had lots of thing developing, like the launch of the official website, and the release of the trailer on the web. i think it's when the trailer came out, that many of us first felt our heart quake and knew we were in for a really intense ride. gradually a handful of people, including me, got to see it at film festivals, but most members were still waiting. and then the film opened gradually, and all through decemeber, we still had a large number of U.S. members and all the international people still waiting.

our second phase was much more sudden, and even more distinct: we went from the single thread format of the old blog comments to this discussion-board format late in the afternoon of christmas eve 2005. (an unlikely date, chosen mostly by the looming holiday deadline. greg and meli and i were all late to our christmas eve family functions and finally had to call an end to several days of code-tweaking and had to force ourselves to launch it so we could go eat turkey and mashed potatoes. we all found ourselves ducking into rooms at our parents' houses a few hours later to log on and see how it was going--zipping along much faster than we had even anticipated.)

a lot of people came over with us, but some of our dearest and most dedicated early group just couldn't get past the idea of different threads and didn't stick with us. they loved that the whole thing was one massive discussion, all shoved together with a hundred different discussions all overlapping. many of us thought that was just a mess. we changed.

the phases get a lot fuzzier after that, and i don't want to try to differentiate them all, but we definitely had periods in Jan/Feb where the impact had worn off quickly for some and they drifted away, while it grew with others. And for still others, the impact of the film itself became of secondary importance to the impact of the forum on them. for them, the film had whipped up something inside them, and gotten them here, but the interaction with the other people ended up being just as powerful or more. and then we had the awards season ecstasy, leading up to the oscar horror and the response with the variety ad.

and then it slowed down dramatically for a little bit right after--people needed to catch their breath, and i think some people had reached a logical conclusion. and the film quickly faded from release, so people were no longer going to see it. then we had the dvd launch, more interest and more new members, though activity had peaked. it got suddenly quiet the first week of summer, but that didn't last, and activity actually grew again in july.

we had lots of excitement leading up to the gatherings, and strong feelings right after. as linda predicted, several active posters faded away after attending--they had reached a logical concluding point of their own. others were energized by the gatherings, and grew more active than ever. others didn't go and didn't care one way or another about that aspect, and went on as usual.

i wouldn't call all these latter events distinct phases for the forum, but things did gradually change. in these latter periods, though, it seems to me that the changes were less cohesive--meaning that say right before the oscars and right after, we had a massive number of members changing in the same direction. now we seem to be in more of a period where some are drifting one way, others another. i think that's fine, too. different stage.

we'll continue to evolve. some good friends will drift away; some of them will come back, some won't. and new people will drift in. i have a feeling that a year from now we will be referring to certain high-profile and long-term members who aren't even here today. and others will be up to 20,000 posts and still going crazy for nearly two years.

i really don't know how we're going to evolve, but we will. and some people will treasure the latest evolution, others will have no use for it. we'll come and we'll go. but hopefully most of you guys will be with us for quite awhile.

for everyone who has come and gone, and everyone with us and to everyone still to come: i never dreamed this forum was going to turn into this, and i am deeply grateful for all the insights and feelings and pain and sorrow and happiness and love we have shared. looking forward to a whole lot more.

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October 13, 2006




BROKEBACK PROFILES -- MEET THE CREATORS
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Larry McMurtry


Today we are privileged to feature Pulitzer Prize winning novelist and Academy Award winner Larry McMurtry.  We know him best for his famous collaboration with Diana Ossana that produced the screenplay of Brokeback Mountain, but that is only one highlight on his long list of achievements.  He has enjoyed a unique career telling stories and enlightening readers about the American West.

McMurtry grew up on a ranch outside of Archer City, Texas, the location that inspired his early novels, including The Last Picture Show.  In addition to his reputation as a highly-respected literary writer, McMurtry is also well-known for the film adaptations of his work, especially Hud (from the novel Horseman, Pass By); The Last Picture Show; Terms of Endearment, (which won five Academy Awards, including Best Picture in 1984); and Lonesome Dove, his Pulitzer Prize-winning novel which became a popular television mini-series.  Film adaptations of his novels have garnered 18 Oscars and 34 Oscar nominations.  The Academy Award for Brokeback Mountain is McMurtry's first Oscar.


One Man, Two Careers

Most of us mortals would be content with the success McMurtry has achieved in books and films, but he had yet another dream to pursue.  As a child in Archer City, with no bookstores and no public library, he had to read the same books over and over.

“I had a tremendous desire to read,” he said in an article from  University of North Texas' Alumni publication, “But the only books I had were a few given to me by my cousin.”  As a result of his love of books and his desire to bring more books to his home town, McMurtry started his 2nd career as a bookseller.  The result is his book store called “Booked Up,” located in Archer City.


Ever the rugged individualist, at the 2006 Academy Awards, McMurtry wore jeans and cowboy boots along with his dinner jacket.  Of course by that time, he had already influenced men’s fashion in 2006 as a result of the success of Brokeback Mountain.

Larry McMurtry’s latest novel is Telegraph Days.  Look for Larry's and Diana's upcoming mini-series versions of his novel Comanche Moon, to air on CBS in February 2007.  Their screenplay Pretty Boy Floyd will be produced as a feature film, and the duo recenty adapted McMurtry's novel Boone's Lick for Playtone, to star Tom Hanks and to be directed by Barry Levinson.

Profile Q and A:


1. Currently listening to?   Coyotes in the wash.

2.  Currently reading?   James Lee Milne, Diaries, 12 Volumes

3.  Biggest challenge?    Life.

4.  Your perfect day?   110 Degrees, no clouds.

5.  What’s your indulgence?    Reading.

6.  What’s you inspiration?   Women, if slightly grubby.

7.  Last major Purchase?     One hundred boxes of books from Serendipity Books, Berkeley California.

8.  First job?    Cowboy.

9.  What do you know for sure?    That I’m not dead.

10.  Favorite Movie (Besides BBM)?    No favorite.

11.  If Heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive at the Pearly Gates?    I’d rather He kept quiet.

13.  Favorite Brokeback Mountain Scene?   Final scene between Ennis and Alma Jr. in the trailer.

14. Any final words for our Ultimate Brokeback Forum members?    None.

(Editorial note:  see question number 11.  If God should keep quiet, I guess it's okay for Larry McMurtry)



Women, if Slightly Grubby

In view of the answer to question #6 (What's your inspiration?) I sneaked in another question to Diana Ossana, Larry McMurtry's long-time partner, who graciously assisted in obtaining this profile.  I commented that Larry must have liked Eileen Brennan's portrayal of Genevieve in The Last Picture Show.  Ms Ossana replied:

"He liked Eileen Brennan, and was very taken with Ellen Burstyn's portrayal of Jacy's mother.  But he admired nearly all the women who translated his female characters to film.  He was particularly impressed with Patricial Neal in Hud.  Sometimes his fictional characters felt prescient, since the actresses who played them were so much like the characters he had imagined in his novels -- as was Cybill Shepherd, who played Jacy in The Last Picture Show."

Members who participated in our August book club discussion of The Last Picture Show will be happy to take note of this added insight.

Special thanks to Diana Ossana



Books and DVDs in the Ultimate Brokeback Store


Larry McMurtry won the Pulitzer Prize for his novel Lonesome Dove, an epic Western novel that exposes what really lies behind two heroic figures on a cattle drive.  Get the book or the DVD of the popular mini-series starring Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones from Amazon through our Ultimate Brokeback Store.

McMurtry’s latest novel, Telegraph Days, and all of his novels are featured in our Ultimate Brokeback Store.

Visit this link to New York Times reviews of novels by Larry McMurtry



Links to Forum Discussions about Larry McMurtry

Forum members have discussed Larry McMurtry’s works in the Larry McMurtry thread in the Books Section, and in the Book Club thread's[/u] August selection, The Last Picture Show,[/i] which also contains discussion of Texasville and Duane’s Depressed.



Previously in
"MEET THE CREATORS":

Diana Ossana, Acadamy Award winning screenwriter, with Larry McMurtry co-wrote the screenplay of Brokeback Mountain, the upcoming Comanche Moon, and much more.

Annie Proulx, author of Brokeback Mountain (from Close Range:  Wyoming Stories), The Shipping News and much more.

James Schamus, Brokeback producer and President of Focus Features



Other Notable Profiles:

Dave Cullen, author and founder of The Ultimate Brokeback Forum.



James McMurtry Wins Album of the Year, Song of the Year

Larry’s son, James McMurtry, co-wrote the lyrics and music to "Water Walkin' Jesus" with his good friend, Stephen Bruton.  (Annie Proulx is credited as well, because she invented the title of the song in the BBM short story.)  Of course we love Jake Gyllenhaal's performance of the snippet of the song that made it into the movie, but perhaps one day we can look forward to a performance of the song on a future CD from James, who is also a singer.

In September, James McMurtry was awarded Album of the Year and Song of the Year by the Americana Music Awards in Nashville.  The winning album is titled  "Childish Things."  The winning song, "We Can't Make It Here Anymore," is a pointed commentary on the economy, war and other issues.

The Austin, Texas-based singer credits his father with exposing him to country music as a boy.  He is currently on tour.

Visit the official website for James McMurtry.



Fanart Feature of the Day

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Click for a full size version and sepia tone sketch of gnash's drawing, as seen in BBM Fan Art.


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October 14, 2006

Today's Daily Sheet edited by kmich






Member Profile: BRAD1963

Brad describes his life this way:

"I was born in Santa Monica, California.  Actually am third generation Santa Monica.  My mother and her mother were born there.  I have two sisters, one lives in New Zealand (through a marriage) and another lives in Texas (through a brainwashing...err I mean marriage.)  Currently I live in West Hollywood, California.  It is considered 'home' to me; I love living there.  Currently I am not in a relationship; personal reasons held me back; I have not been interested in one for the past few years.  But I am open now for one and have been 'dating' off and on.  I've had non-living together relationships in the past but nothing was able to stick.

I've been a movie-goer since I was about 13 years old.  I love everything but am fond of spy-thrillers like the Jason Bourne films.  Oddly enough, I am not into musicals and have not seen any Judy Garland films other than The Wizard of Oz.  Some gay man I am, LOL.  My musical tastes lean towards country music, and I dislike hip hop, rap and most of the bleached blond lip-syncing divas of today. 


I work in the entertainment industry and always have so far in my working life.  If I had a chance to do it all over and start fresh I would probably be a paramedic.  My mother was ill a couple years ago and I became a nurse/medic really quickly, and realized I was good at taking care of people.  At 43 I think it may be too late to pursue it, but I have given it thought."

Profile Questions:

01. Currently listening to? Martina McBride's Greatest Hits.  Love that woman, she can sing!

02.  Currently reading?  I purchased The Bourne Ultimatum.  Hope to read it before the film comes out next summer.

03.  Biggest challenge?  Right now, figuring my next step in life.  I'm 43 and ready for a big change.

04.  Your perfect day?  Having my morning coffee with friends at my favorite WeHo coffee house, Marco's Cafe.  Then either going to a film or having a DVD marathon at home.

05.  What's your indulgence?  Movies and DVDs.

06.  What's your inspiration?  Seeing a film or listening to music that pushes to the limit.  I love when I see the arts create something extraordinary.  Talent is something to embrace and learn from.

07.  Last major Purchase?  A HD (Hi-Def) Television and DVD player.  Cannot wait to see Brokeback on HBO in Hi Def.  Jake's blue eyes will probably blind me.  Cheesy

08.  First job? Selling tickets at Mann Village Theatre in Westwood.

09.  What do you know for sure?  I know who I am and what I like and dislike.  There are no grey areas with me.

10.  Favorite Movie Besides BBM? Norma Rae --I love how she changes for the better without even realizing.  It is inspirational.

11.  If Heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive at the Pearly Gates?    Your mom cannot stop talking about you and is waiting for you, son.

12.  What brought you to the Forum? Brokeback Mountain.  I have never been a trekkie or anything close to it, but this forum is the closest thing to that kind of phenomenon.  It is a fun group of people who were brought together by Jack and Ennis.

13.  Your favorite threads? I have fun in the Photo Captioning thread.

14. How many times have you watched BBM?  9 times in the theatre and 2 times on DVD.  I'm waiting to watching it again on HBO Hi Def.

15.  Your favorite BBM scene?  The flashback scene with Jack sleeping on his feet like a horse.  The tears really start to flow.  It is the moment in the film that shows how happy and how sad they both were all at the same time.  Ennis embracing Jack made be bawl because it was the happiest moment in both of their lives, balanced off with them seeing each other for the very last time.  It is strong stuff.


Zodiac Poster

Want a sneak peek at the poster for Jake's next movie, Zodiac ?


Zodiac's  U.S. release date is January 17, 2007.  It is based on the true story of the Zodiac serial killer whose still-unsolved crimes terrorized the San Francisco Bay Area in the 1970s.

See joblo.com for additional details


Thread of the Day: Reactions to Brokeback by friends, family & audiences

john john posted this lovely story about the reaction he received from his goddaughter after giving her the Brokeback Mountain  DVD for her birthday:

"I gave the BBM DVD to my god-daughter for her birthday last week.  I told her how much this film meant to me, that although it's not an expensive gift, it was the most beautiful gift I could think of.

Well, she just called me telling me she had watched it this afternoon and had to wait for the crying to subside before calling me.  She told me how devastated she felt.  How much Jack and Ennis' story went straight to her heart.  We started yakking about this and that scene and we thoroughly connected.

She couldn't stop thanking me.  I told her that we should watch it together, cry together and discuss it to the hilt!

I'm so glad to finally have someone close who 'gets' it!  Someone to share it with.

I ended the conversation telling her I was so happy she felt so sad!!!!!!  We both laughed, I had tears welling up."

There's nothing quite like that feeling when someone in your real life "gets" BBM, is there?  To read other members' stories visit  Reactions to Brokeback by friends, family & audiences.


BBM through Smilies

LondonJakeFan posted this sweet and funny re-enactment of BBM through smilies in the FanFair thread:

             


"Friend, that's more words than you spoke all summer"



"I'm sorry" "It's alright"
       


Time to get going cowboy







"Do you know someone by name Jack Twist?"



"Jack F*cking Twist"



"It could be like this, just like this always"



"Have you seen my blue parka?"





King of the road


   


"I wish I knew how to quit you"





"Jack, I swear"


And just a friendly reminder that moving smilies are not allowed in avatars and signatures, but are allowed in PMs.


Close Range Discussion:  Half Skinned Steer Begins Monday

Members discussing Close Range plan to move on to The Half-Skinned Steer  starting Monday.  Warning:  metaphors ahead.  Click here to join the discussion.


Photocap of the Day

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BROKEBACK COUNTRY-WESTERN SONGS



I Knew That I'd Hit Bottom When I Woke With Ewe On Top Of Me

 

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October 15, 2006


Interview with  Alfie Creighton (who worked on BBM)

Rob 1318 had an interview with Alfie Creighton, who worked with Ray Breckenridge, the Picture Car
 Co-coordinator for BrokebackMountain and has posted it in its entirety on the
What questions would you ask Alfie Creighton? thread.
  Here are a few of the exchanges:

Rob: Jake was away from the shooting a good deal of the time. I think, that, in many of the distant scenes, a double was used for Jake.

Alfie: Yes there was a couple of times where we did far away drive a way scenes where we would put somebody in just so we could see the truck, his truck, or one of the trucks driving at a far distance. We do that lots where I'll jump in the vehicle if I'm the right size, or somebody else & we'll throw their outfit on...their hat...or their jacket, or whatever & drive. So in any of the, what we call splinter units, somebody else might have driven for him.

Rob: Do you have any specific information on which scenes where talking about?

Alfie: There is the one with the red & white Ford going around the corner on the hill, both Heath & Jake were in the truck. I was sitting in the seat, there. Shots like that, long distance shots, we'll use somebody else. Just an SSE person, could be anybody, a cast member, or mainly just extras that are there.

Rob: It's my understanding that it was the stunt truck coming down, parallel to the railway track & then when the scene switches, it's actually the beauty truck pulling in....what's your information on that one?

Alfie: Yes, that's right. That was where we were using the stunt truck to start with and hoping that we would bring it all the way into the lot so that when Jake got out to kick it, he wouldn't be kicking the beauty truck. The motor had quit running on us.....we had to finish the scene, so we ended up using the beauty truck for him to drive down & kick. That was dissappointing for me because it was our beauty truck & we didn't want any dints in the back fender.

Rob: I've heard that the director said "kick harder".

Alfie: Yes, quite a few times & I kept saying "quit kicking, that's enough of that".

Rob: Did you ever get a chance to meet & talk with Jake, Heath & Ang?

Alfie: A little bit....I talked to Jake more than Heath. I talked to Heath a little bit when he drove down the river just before they were going to jump in. They had horses in the back. He told me then that he came from a ranch in Australia and was used to driving a standard and hauling stuff in the back of the truck as a young kid, so he drove well. And Jake, I talked to him because he was trying to bulk up...they had bought him a bench & some weights & he would try to bulk up because he was doing his next show (Jarhead) and had to be in better shape than he was. He was so concentrated on this show that he didn't spend a lot of time doing it, but I talked to him a little bit & pumped some iron with him.

Rob is the owner of the two trucks Jack used in BBM.  To visit his site and learn more about Rob, the trucks and his medical foundation, go to Thebrokebacktruck.

Second Hand Clothes?

As we reported earlier, The Human Rights Campaign is holding an auction this week that will auction off many pieces of clothing from Brokeback Mountain.  To take part in the auction, go to BBM Auction (Proceeds will benefit the Human Rights Campaign.)



Sample of some of the items up for sale


2007 Zagat Movie Guide

Zagat just came out with it's 2007 Movie Guide  and Brokeback Mountain  is included.  The guide is a compilation of "1600 outstanding flims" as rated by their surveyors.  The Guide  is based upon the input of nearly 15,000 participants who averaged watching 2.2 movies per week - 1.7 million films annually.

Here is the annotation on BBM:

"2005.  Directed by Ang Lee, With Heath Ledger, Jake Gyllenhaal, Michelle Williams, Anne Hathaway.  134 minutes.  Rated R.  Widely pegged as the "gay cowboy movie", this "star-crossed" "Romeo-and-Romeo" romance is as controversial" as they come, yet its "gimmick-free" rendition of "forbidden love" "avoids sensationalism" thanks to an "understated" performance by Ledge (and an "underrated" one by Gylenhaal, back up by "stunnng scenery", a "ravishing score" and "Angst" Lee's heartfelt", Oscar-winning direction; ultimately this "timeless" film has had a "real cultural influence", even if it's best remembered for the "most spoofed line of the year": "I don't know how to quit you."

For the Movie Guide  and other Zagat publications and reviews go to Zagat.com.   


Vote for Film Club Selection

Speaking of movies, you only have a few days left to vote on which film you want to discuss in our new film club.  To add your two-cents, go to:  Our Film Club: Film Selection and Organizational Issues.  At this writing, Maurice is leading the pack.  Here are the choices: Another Country, Beautiful Thing, Big Eden, Far From Heaven, My Beautiful Laundrette and Maurice.

Voting ends tomorrow (Monday - 16 October).


Pat's Prints
by Pat Sinnott



Anything interestin' up there?


Battle of the Poems

Dueling poetry has been taking place in our Juicy Bits - Slash Poetry Thread   

By Sid401k:

Do you still hanker after Jake?
Heath is still my piece of cake!
Okay, J dresses with more flair,
And looks so cute with rumpled hair,
While H gets clothes from rummage sales,
But really, that's all just details.
Who cares whose clothing looks the best?
It's who's the hottest when undressed!

Reply by scarlettbaby:

Well here's a pretty pass my friend
You know whose blue eyes I defend
Upon the screen they shine and twinkle
I can't believe this guy's still single!
When dressed up fine he looks a treat
And undressed just turns up the heat
That manly chest those abbs sublime
Those arms just made to cling, devine!
And I could write an epic tale
Of following that tresure trail
So you may settle for your cake
For me the only one is Jake


PhotoCaps of the Day

Our photocappers are into country music lines these days.  Here are a couple that really hit home:


1.  BROKEBACK COUNTRY-WESTERN SONG



You're the reason God made Brokeback Mountain
'N I'll be missing you.

by HR

2.  BROKEBACK COUNTRY-WESTERN SONG



You'll Always Appear Further Away in the Side View Mirror of Life.

by TwistandShout



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